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		<title>By: Kevin Skoglund</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-2483</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Skoglund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it was released in late October.

You can find it here: http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=55960</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it was released in late October.</p>
<p>You can find it here: <a href="http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=55960" rel="nofollow">http://www.lynda.com/home/DisplayCourse.aspx?lpk2=55960</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jimi Smoot</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-2482</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimi Smoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 04:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kevin, Did you ever end up finishing that new Lynda Tutorial?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kevin, Did you ever end up finishing that new Lynda Tutorial?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-2304</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome! If you need someone to &quot;test&quot; it on lemme know... I&#039;d be glad to help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! If you need someone to &#8220;test&#8221; it on lemme know&#8230; I&#8217;d be glad to help</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Skoglund</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-2303</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Skoglund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Rob.  We are actually recording a completely updated RoR Essential Training now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rob.  We are actually recording a completely updated RoR Essential Training now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-2302</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing - its great how you have the exercise files that you can download, but they don&#039;t work with the latest Rails... If you could update those too that would be useful.

I am at chapter 12 and want to &quot;reset&quot; my project with your files, but I can&#039;t just run your example files with script/server nor can I use my current Rails to generate a new project and import your &quot;app&quot; folder into it. Bummer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing &#8211; its great how you have the exercise files that you can download, but they don&#8217;t work with the latest Rails&#8230; If you could update those too that would be useful.</p>
<p>I am at chapter 12 and want to &#8220;reset&#8221; my project with your files, but I can&#8217;t just run your example files with script/server nor can I use my current Rails to generate a new project and import your &#8220;app&#8221; folder into it. Bummer.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-2301</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin: 

 Thanks for this! I am what I consider a very technical designer, and every year or so I come back to Rails and find that they have changed SO MUCH in it that all the books and tutorials are obsolete to beginners/novices that have not kept up with all the changes. Even if REST is better, its such a drag that the changes essentially throw all the old learning materials away. 

Great stuff, 

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: </p>
<p> Thanks for this! I am what I consider a very technical designer, and every year or so I come back to Rails and find that they have changed SO MUCH in it that all the books and tutorials are obsolete to beginners/novices that have not kept up with all the changes. Even if REST is better, its such a drag that the changes essentially throw all the old learning materials away. </p>
<p>Great stuff, </p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: C. Spencer Beggs</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-2244</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Spencer Beggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anyone following the &quot;Ruby on Rails Essential Training&quot; from Lynda.com and is using the latest Rails and RubyGems releases, you need to drop the &quot;crud_scaffold_generator&quot; folder into &quot;vendor/plugins&quot;

To get to the right place in the &quot;Scaffold: Magic CRUD&quot; chapter, generate the Album model, then Admin controller and then use this command to generate the scaffold: ruby script/generate crud_scaffold Album Admin

Overwrite anything it asks you to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone following the &#8220;Ruby on Rails Essential Training&#8221; from Lynda.com and is using the latest Rails and RubyGems releases, you need to drop the &#8220;crud_scaffold_generator&#8221; folder into &#8220;vendor/plugins&#8221;</p>
<p>To get to the right place in the &#8220;Scaffold: Magic CRUD&#8221; chapter, generate the Album model, then Admin controller and then use this command to generate the scaffold: ruby script/generate crud_scaffold Album Admin</p>
<p>Overwrite anything it asks you to.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Andersen</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, thank you for your scaffold plugin. It will help me complete the lessons on Lynda.com. I&#039;m sure I will come to agree that the REST way is better, but you hit the nail on the head when you wrote that the change &quot;raises a barrier to entry for beginners.&quot;

I look forward to your new Rails tutorials. Hope they are available soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, thank you for your scaffold plugin. It will help me complete the lessons on Lynda.com. I&#8217;m sure I will come to agree that the REST way is better, but you hit the nail on the head when you wrote that the change &#8220;raises a barrier to entry for beginners.&#8221;</p>
<p>I look forward to your new Rails tutorials. Hope they are available soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Kirst</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-1367</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Kirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Kevin, all you courses are wonderful. I was hoping that you guys would update the courses to reflect the scaffold in 2.2. I understand you recently had a child, so i understand you must be really busy. I just had a little boy last july 13, so i totally understand. Hopefully you get around to it sooner though, thanxs again for all your classes! Kyle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Kevin, all you courses are wonderful. I was hoping that you guys would update the courses to reflect the scaffold in 2.2. I understand you recently had a child, so i understand you must be really busy. I just had a little boy last july 13, so i totally understand. Hopefully you get around to it sooner though, thanxs again for all your classes! Kyle</p>
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		<title>By: John Burgoon</title>
		<link>http://www.nullislove.com/2008/06/27/crud-scaffold-generator/comment-page-1/#comment-1335</link>
		<dc:creator>John Burgoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with Kevin.  Making Rails 2.x RESTful is fine, but deprecation and removal of old tools should be S L O W.  I&#039;ve been learning not only Rails, but Ruby, MySQL, and a host of other (unrelated) technologies at my new job.  Although CNixon (above) thinks it&#039;s insulting to my intelligence, I can tell you that I have plenty of intelligence - it&#039;s just _REALLY BUSY_. 

I say, PLEASE insult me.  Assume I know NOTHING. Show me what the code should look like, because the odds are that sometimes I won&#039;t see what you are so sure I should be seeing... especially if the Folks Who Develop Rails keep breaking/deprecating things in favor of their lofty ideals.  

For example, how many of us have had to go and modify our config files because the Rails Gods have the energy to deprecate something (I give you, for example, config.action_view.cache_template_extensions) but don&#039;t have the decency/energy/intelligence to change Rails so that &quot;rails &quot; stops adding the deprecated items into the configuration?  How many human production hours are wasted on these kinds of loose ends?

The fact is that I might &quot;know&quot; a thing but be unable to precisely recall the syntax... such as the CRUD controller syntax handed to me by scaffolding.  This happens often, in fact, and I rely heavily on the tools described in the majority of tutorials.  Adding RESTful methods to Rails was a great decision - but removing the old scaffolding so soon was a stupid, short-sighted, newbie mistake.  I hope I do not insult the intelligence of the intelligentsia who rule the ruby roost by pointing out that getting a host of excited newbies reliant on a simple tool (like scaffolding) and then yanking it out from under us is like, well, the good ole days of Microsoft.

Thank you Kevin for giving me back the fundamental tool (scaffolding) upon which MOST extant Rails tutorials rely. A year from now when I&#039;m a snooty Rails expertigentsian, I&#039;ll try not to sneer at the intelligence of the poor devils who are trying to learn the hard way while juggling five or six other new technologies to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Kevin.  Making Rails 2.x RESTful is fine, but deprecation and removal of old tools should be S L O W.  I&#8217;ve been learning not only Rails, but Ruby, MySQL, and a host of other (unrelated) technologies at my new job.  Although CNixon (above) thinks it&#8217;s insulting to my intelligence, I can tell you that I have plenty of intelligence &#8211; it&#8217;s just _REALLY BUSY_. </p>
<p>I say, PLEASE insult me.  Assume I know NOTHING. Show me what the code should look like, because the odds are that sometimes I won&#8217;t see what you are so sure I should be seeing&#8230; especially if the Folks Who Develop Rails keep breaking/deprecating things in favor of their lofty ideals.  </p>
<p>For example, how many of us have had to go and modify our config files because the Rails Gods have the energy to deprecate something (I give you, for example, config.action_view.cache_template_extensions) but don&#8217;t have the decency/energy/intelligence to change Rails so that &#8220;rails &#8221; stops adding the deprecated items into the configuration?  How many human production hours are wasted on these kinds of loose ends?</p>
<p>The fact is that I might &#8220;know&#8221; a thing but be unable to precisely recall the syntax&#8230; such as the CRUD controller syntax handed to me by scaffolding.  This happens often, in fact, and I rely heavily on the tools described in the majority of tutorials.  Adding RESTful methods to Rails was a great decision &#8211; but removing the old scaffolding so soon was a stupid, short-sighted, newbie mistake.  I hope I do not insult the intelligence of the intelligentsia who rule the ruby roost by pointing out that getting a host of excited newbies reliant on a simple tool (like scaffolding) and then yanking it out from under us is like, well, the good ole days of Microsoft.</p>
<p>Thank you Kevin for giving me back the fundamental tool (scaffolding) upon which MOST extant Rails tutorials rely. A year from now when I&#8217;m a snooty Rails expertigentsian, I&#8217;ll try not to sneer at the intelligence of the poor devils who are trying to learn the hard way while juggling five or six other new technologies to boot.</p>
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