Comments on: Testing in Rails: Introduction http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/ Code for Coders Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:16:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Test Awareness Month: taylorbarstow http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-1349 Test Awareness Month: taylorbarstow Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:03:10 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/#comment-1349 [...] testing (I love it, and you should too), but here’s a super useful link if you are wondering how to go about testing Rails apps (it’s not always obvious; how should one test active record relationships, for [...] [...] testing (I love it, and you should too), but here’s a super useful link if you are wondering how to go about testing Rails apps (it’s not always obvious; how should one test active record relationships, for [...]

]]> By: SohDubom http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-1291 SohDubom Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:47:14 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/#comment-1291 Great. Thanks for sharing your thoughts regarding Testing. That's going to be great to see a vid tutorial exclusive on testing and I'd also like to say that it's not a bad idea to see tutorials on specific subjects, eg: membership, nevigational menus ideas, rest, routes, etc maybe a very small app to cover a specific topic instead of full app trying to cover all aspects at once :-) Great. Thanks for sharing your thoughts regarding Testing. That’s going to be great to see a vid tutorial exclusive on testing and I’d also like to say that it’s not a bad idea to see tutorials on specific subjects, eg: membership, nevigational menus ideas, rest, routes, etc maybe a very small app to cover a specific topic instead of full app trying to cover all aspects at once :-)

]]> By: Kevin Skoglund http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-1290 Kevin Skoglund Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:14:33 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/#comment-1290 1. My informal assessment is that RoR teams use, in this order: no tests, traditional tests, TDD/BDD. 2. I use traditional tests. I think TDD (Test Driven Development) and BDD work really well for some people. It just suits the way they think and the way they like to work. For me, it doesn't fit the way I like to work. I code then write tests. Experiment with both and decide which is right for you. 3. Correct, and it was on purpose. There was enough material without including the very big subject of testing. That's why I wrote this blog series--because I would love to eventually record a video tutorial on testing, but won't have the time for a few months at least. 1. My informal assessment is that RoR teams use, in this order: no tests, traditional tests, TDD/BDD.

2. I use traditional tests. I think TDD (Test Driven Development) and BDD work really well for some people. It just suits the way they think and the way they like to work. For me, it doesn’t fit the way I like to work. I code then write tests. Experiment with both and decide which is right for you.

3. Correct, and it was on purpose. There was enough material without including the very big subject of testing. That’s why I wrote this blog series–because I would love to eventually record a video tutorial on testing, but won’t have the time for a few months at least.

]]> By: SohDubom http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-1289 SohDubom Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:52:43 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/#comment-1289 Hi Kevin. Since the main topic here is Testing, I'd like to know what you, as a experienced Rails developer have to say regarding what I think about Testing in general. Well, I'm new to RoR, but not to programming. I'm working with Asp.Net for quite a long time and yes, there are test units, functionals, etc in .net too, but what I like to say is that I don't feel comfortable creating those test units at all, I feel some lack of fluidness between the real code and the equivalents for testing. Recently I saw a screencast showing the benefits of BDD - Behaviour Driven Development and then I finally saw the light. I still haven't done BDD. I'm learning RoR through books, but most through screencasts and vids which I think is faster and more productive. Most of these vids uses conventional test units and functionals. Some doubts I have are: 1. In the real world, what kind of testing approach is RoR teams using: traditional unit/functional/integration testing or BDD? 2. What about you? What do you use? What do you think is best? 3. I don't have you latest vid tutorial from Lynda.com [RoR beyond basics], but I think that in the tutorial you didn't use testing at all. Was that on purpose? because of BDD coming up? ... Hi Kevin. Since the main topic here is Testing, I’d like to know what you, as a experienced Rails developer have to say regarding what I think about Testing in general. Well, I’m new to RoR, but not to programming. I’m working with Asp.Net for quite a long time and yes, there are test units, functionals, etc in .net too, but what I like to say is that I don’t feel comfortable creating those test units at all, I feel some lack of fluidness between the real code and the equivalents for testing. Recently I saw a screencast showing the benefits of BDD - Behaviour Driven Development and then I finally saw the light. I still haven’t done BDD. I’m learning RoR through books, but most through screencasts and vids which I think is faster and more productive. Most of these vids uses conventional test units and functionals. Some doubts I have are:

1. In the real world, what kind of testing approach is RoR teams using: traditional unit/functional/integration testing or BDD?

2. What about you? What do you use? What do you think is best?

3. I don’t have you latest vid tutorial from Lynda.com [RoR beyond basics], but I think that in the tutorial you didn’t use testing at all. Was that on purpose? because of BDD coming up?

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]]> By: Ruby, RSpec and BDD Part I < Ardekantur http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-894 Ruby, RSpec and BDD Part I < Ardekantur Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:10:32 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/#comment-894 [...] Driven Development (BDD) with rspec in Ruby, based off the examples provided by this excellent Null Is Love series of posts. The only thing I know externally, in terms of BDD, is the process [...] [...] Driven Development (BDD) with rspec in Ruby, based off the examples provided by this excellent Null Is Love series of posts. The only thing I know externally, in terms of BDD, is the process [...]

]]> By: Kevin Skoglund http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-892 Kevin Skoglund Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:49:27 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/#comment-892 Tashi, thank you for the kind words. No donations necessary--just let other people looking for help know about the training. I will have more training coming in 2008. Tashi, thank you for the kind words. No donations necessary–just let other people looking for help know about the training. I will have more training coming in 2008.

]]> By: tashi samphel http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-891 tashi samphel Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:56:16 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/#comment-891 Dear Kevin I really like your tutor ruby on rails.i did php and mysql course at one institution and i don't think fine to put the name of that institution there but from that i got a big lesson in future think before pay, as i pay lots of fees but in return i get nothing because the Instructor are not sharing there whole knowledge.they only teach limited to the course. but when i got your tutor i learned a lot really so i think spending money on tutor like your is much much benefit as compare to study in some bad institution. i encourage you and lynda.com to produce more more project like this to the world. i really appreciate you and your team for making those tutor. i don't see any donation button here, if there is any donation box i happily contribute some for your further project. thanks. lynda.com Dear Kevin

I really like your tutor ruby on rails.i did php and mysql course at one institution and i don’t think fine to put the name of that institution there but from that i got a big lesson in future think before pay, as i pay lots of fees but in return i get nothing because the Instructor are not sharing there whole knowledge.they only teach limited to the course. but when i got your tutor i learned a lot really so i think spending money on tutor like your is much much benefit as compare to study in some bad institution. i encourage you and lynda.com to produce more more project like this to the world. i really appreciate you and your team for making those tutor. i don’t see any donation button here, if there is any donation box i happily contribute some for your further project.

thanks. lynda.com

]]> By: Roll A Monkey » Blog Archive » Get Fit - Part 3 - Unit testing the controller http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-885 Roll A Monkey » Blog Archive » Get Fit - Part 3 - Unit testing the controller Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:04:54 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/#comment-885 [...] can be found in the Rails manual and Kevin Skoglund at Null is Love is currently in the middle of a series of posts on Rails testing. Hopefully my sample code coupled with these links will be [...] [...] can be found in the Rails manual and Kevin Skoglund at Null is Love is currently in the middle of a series of posts on Rails testing. Hopefully my sample code coupled with these links will be [...]

]]> By: RoR Tuesday 13/11/2007 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/comment-page-1/#comment-722 RoR Tuesday 13/11/2007 Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:31:09 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/11/10/testing-in-rails-introduction/#comment-722 [...] Skoglund has a very good start on a series of articles on Testing in Rails. It’s only an introduction at this point, but it’s very well put together and I [...] [...] Skoglund has a very good start on a series of articles on Testing in Rails. It’s only an introduction at this point, but it’s very well put together and I [...]

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