Comments on: Ruby on Rails Beyond the Basics http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/ Code for Coders Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:20:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Kevin Skoglund http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-1112 Kevin Skoglund Mon, 05 May 2008 19:59:27 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-1112 Jason: Yes, you need to have a database configuration now for Rails to start. I'm hoping they reconsider this change to the default settings in the next version (which is due out soon). Don't bother with the scaffolding plug-in. Scaffold only shows off the sensible defaults that let you get basic CRUD (create, read, update, delete) running quickly. It's not actually useful for development. Just watch the movie to get the idea of what it used to do and to see what standard CRUD pages look like. Jason: Yes, you need to have a database configuration now for Rails to start. I’m hoping they reconsider this change to the default settings in the next version (which is due out soon).

Don’t bother with the scaffolding plug-in. Scaffold only shows off the sensible defaults that let you get basic CRUD (create, read, update, delete) running quickly. It’s not actually useful for development. Just watch the movie to get the idea of what it used to do and to see what standard CRUD pages look like.

]]> By: Jason http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-1110 Jason Mon, 05 May 2008 02:20:36 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-1110 Kevin, Great RoR tutorials on lynda.com. I am having the same rails 2.0 issues as noted above. 1) Hello World in not working; but with further review I have found that the database has to be up and running first before a RoR applications will work. Is this true? (I was able to get Mysql up!!) 2) It seems that scaffolding is a trick of the past. Should is skip the lessons on that or should I install the the scaffolding plugin? If yes, do you know a good place to find info on adding the plugins needed? Regards, Jason Kevin,

Great RoR tutorials on lynda.com. I am having the same rails 2.0 issues as noted above.

1) Hello World in not working; but with further review I have found that the database has to be up and running first before a RoR applications will work. Is this true? (I was able to get Mysql up!!)

2) It seems that scaffolding is a trick of the past. Should is skip the lessons on that or should I install the the scaffolding plugin? If yes, do you know a good place to find info on adding the plugins needed?

Regards,

Jason

]]> By: Kevin Skoglund http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-1042 Kevin Skoglund Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:56:08 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-1042 Emily, There are 2 main things that have changed since Rails version 2.0.2 came out. 1) scaffolding has been removed. You can still watch the movie where I demonstrate it. As I'm showing it, you'll notice that I say something to the effect of "Cool trick, but you'll never actually do it this way when developing." The important point is that Rails is based on sensible defaults, so sensible that a single command used to give you all the CRUD of a basic database application. 2) The default database is now SQLite. Rails with MySQL still works exactly as I demonstrate, but you'll have to edit your database.yml file to match mine. By default it will be hoping to use SQLite. I'm talking to Lynda.com now about how to best handle these revisions. In the meantime, I hope that helps! Emily,

There are 2 main things that have changed since Rails version 2.0.2 came out.

1) scaffolding has been removed. You can still watch the movie where I demonstrate it. As I’m showing it, you’ll notice that I say something to the effect of “Cool trick, but you’ll never actually do it this way when developing.” The important point is that Rails is based on sensible defaults, so sensible that a single command used to give you all the CRUD of a basic database application.

2) The default database is now SQLite. Rails with MySQL still works exactly as I demonstrate, but you’ll have to edit your database.yml file to match mine. By default it will be hoping to use SQLite.

I’m talking to Lynda.com now about how to best handle these revisions.

In the meantime, I hope that helps!

]]> By: Emily http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-1036 Emily Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:12:18 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-1036 Kevin, I love the lynda.com tutorial videos you made for Ruby on Rails, but as a total newbie I'm getting stuck when it comes to scaffolding and some other things that have changed in version 2.0. The tutorial steps don't work and I'm at a loss as to what to do to keep going. Do you have any plans to release updates or notes to help users get through the tutorials with the latest version of ROR? Thanks! Kevin,

I love the lynda.com tutorial videos you made for Ruby on Rails, but as a total newbie I’m getting stuck when it comes to scaffolding and some other things that have changed in version 2.0. The tutorial steps don’t work and I’m at a loss as to what to do to keep going. Do you have any plans to release updates or notes to help users get through the tutorials with the latest version of ROR?

Thanks!

]]> By: Michael Birch http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-797 Michael Birch Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:15:30 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-797 The RoR tuts on lynda are incredibly easy to follow, and if programming has been a bit intimidating this is the easiest route I've found so far. If you can't get it with this......well there's always something else I guess. Unfortunately The tutorial has been on hold in my world due to me forgetting the mysql password. I've had a pretty hard time trying to reset it with no luck. So if You do take the course REMEMBER YOUR PASSWORD. The RoR tuts on lynda are incredibly easy to follow, and if programming has been a bit intimidating this is the easiest route I’ve found so far. If you can’t get it with this……well there’s always something else I guess. Unfortunately The tutorial has been on hold in my world due to me forgetting the mysql password. I’ve had a pretty hard time trying to reset it with no luck. So if You do take the course REMEMBER YOUR PASSWORD.

]]> By: Kevin Skoglund http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-765 Kevin Skoglund Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:53:53 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-765 @Victor: The training will teach you how to use Ruby on Rails and I use a simple blog as a sample project in Beyond the Basics. I don't teach exactly the project you describe, mostly I'm using the blog project to make other points about how Ruby on Rails works and how you can get the most out of it. Ruby on Rails is certainly capable of doing the type of project you are describing, and I think Ruby on Rails Essential Training and Ruby on Rails Beyond the Basics will give you enough skills to accomplish it. @Victor: The training will teach you how to use Ruby on Rails and I use a simple blog as a sample project in Beyond the Basics. I don’t teach exactly the project you describe, mostly I’m using the blog project to make other points about how Ruby on Rails works and how you can get the most out of it.

Ruby on Rails is certainly capable of doing the type of project you are describing, and I think Ruby on Rails Essential Training and Ruby on Rails Beyond the Basics will give you enough skills to accomplish it.

]]> By: Victor Deltoro http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-760 Victor Deltoro Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:17:42 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-760 Hi Kevin, Compliments. I want to thank you for producing the Beyond the Basics series for RoR. I live in Africa and I haven't had the opportunity to see the previews yet but I have read the curriculum on lynda.com. Here's what I want to do: I want to build a social networking site such that each registered user shall have a solid blog system. Can I use your training, Kevin, to learn how to build a blog, and then to make that blog available to each registered user of my social networking site? Secondly, I want to build a video blog as well, i.e. a flash player app above with a comment system below. Can I also glean the fundamentals of building such a system from your training title minus the flash player app? Thanks Kevin and I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Victor Hi Kevin,

Compliments. I want to thank you for producing the Beyond the Basics series for RoR. I live in Africa and I haven’t had the opportunity to see the previews yet but I have read the curriculum on lynda.com.

Here’s what I want to do: I want to build a social networking site such that each registered user shall have a solid blog system. Can I use your training, Kevin, to learn how to build a blog, and then to make that blog available to each registered user of my social networking site?

Secondly, I want to build a video blog as well, i.e. a flash player app above with a comment system below. Can I also glean the fundamentals of building such a system from your training title minus the flash player app?

Thanks Kevin and I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards,
Victor

]]> By: Frank http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-748 Frank Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:55:12 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-748 I signed up at lynda.com for this training set. Just finished watching all 17 chapters and I must say, well explained and easy to follow... Thanks. I signed up at lynda.com for this training set.
Just finished watching all 17 chapters and I must say, well explained and easy to follow…
Thanks.

]]> By: Kevin Skoglund http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-742 Kevin Skoglund Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:27:06 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-742 @john: I did some checking. You are correct--some of the Lynda.com titles are on the O'Reilly site too as part of a special program they worked out. Currently the titles are limited only to the "Essential Training" level and not to more advanced titles like "Ruby on Rails Beyond the Basics". So you'll have to go to Lynda.com or Amazon.com to watch "Ruby on Rails Beyond the Basics". @john: I did some checking. You are correct–some of the Lynda.com titles are on the O’Reilly site too as part of a special program they worked out. Currently the titles are limited only to the “Essential Training” level and not to more advanced titles like “Ruby on Rails Beyond the Basics”. So you’ll have to go to Lynda.com or Amazon.com to watch “Ruby on Rails Beyond the Basics”.

]]> By: john http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/comment-page-1/#comment-717 john Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:04:38 +0000 http://www.nullislove.com/2007/10/18/ruby-on-rails-beyond-the-basics/#comment-717 @Kevin, I am a Safari Library member and I have access to your Essential Training course. See - http://safari.oreilly.com/1596713089. Your material is great and helps justify paying oreilly 39.95 per month. @Kevin,

I am a Safari Library member and I have access to your Essential Training course. See - http://safari.oreilly.com/1596713089.

Your material is great and helps justify paying oreilly 39.95 per month.

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